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Correct, information technology'southward near fourth dimension this had an update, forth with me asking for some propose to cure the latest problem.

Now, you volition be glad to know (and probably already realise that the upshot that stopped it working presently after shitefest was rectified. Contrary to Matt's thoughts, this Lancia does have a creepo sensor, which was faulty, replaced and all was well once again for many months. The faulty sensor was causing a complete lack of fuel and sparks, when cleaned up it fabricated the splutter and about run, once replaced information technology was perfect.

These Months were spent belting all around Devon at great speed with a massive grin on my confront and solving a few niggles such equally fixing the central locking and the rear wash wipe. Information technology has been an absolute joy to employ. It was at its most fun when we went to a track day at Castle Combe where I took the Y10, my carp took his Demio and considering his MR2 was broken my Dad nabbed my Supra (which I have since sold to him) and we blasted around having a wonderful fourth dimension.

We did experience a fleck out of place equally there was some seriously fast stuff going around the course which quite clearly was worth 10x the full value of all our cars, but the Lancia and Demio, while slower on the straights was out cornering some quick machinery. Post-obit is some of the more than shite worthy examples racing that day:

This only ended when I managed to rip all the tread from one of my front tyres followed a minor front right pause collapse when a couple of bolts (which I don’t think I’d tightened properly) were shaken loose on the curbs. This was probably for the best as the Supra had cooked its brakes within the offset couple of laps and my brother had been caught out by lift off over steer in the Demio and span off into the weeds which then got stuck in his wheels and began lightly smouldering.

The pause outcome was hands resolved* by swapping the now bald tyre for the spare and so driving but far plenty away from the track to not look suspicious and calling the AA to come and fix it. It turned out the perfect place to finish was a rather nice pub, all-time place I take ever cleaved down, certainly beats the hell out of the difficult should of the M5.

With this all stock-still properly, information technology has been my daily transport or the by 5 months and washed a bright job. The headlamps are a bit pathetic, even with Osram Nightbreakers and it’s not the most relaxing drive, but you always reach your destination on fourth dimension and with a huge smile.

Now here comes the problem, as you may have gathered from a couple of other threads, I am off to Australia and the surrounding area later this calendar month for an as yet unknown length of time, however information technology is likely to be virtually a year. I didn’t want to sell the Lancia as I like it far besides much, only neither did I want to run into it merely sat looking forlorn on my parents drive so I decided to set going an Autoshite rental scheme, full details of which can be constitute in this thread:

http://autoshite.com/topic/18461-lancia-y10-trusted-shiter-loan-scheme/

Phil_lihp was due to pick it up as the first custodian just before the end of December. I had noticed that the au belt was looking a bit past its best and was existence caught past a slightly abrupt edge on the cam embrace, then I set nearly replacing it and to exercise the cam chugalug at the same fourth dimension equally it is unknown when it was last done and information technology was only 1 more nut that needed to exist removed to do information technology.

This turned out to exist a correct hurting in the arse considering as usual it was the crank caster that needed to be removed to access the cam chugalug and it was murder tight, just also required a huge 38mm socket. I ended up buying an bear on gun to get it off and found a slightly creepy ground forces surplus shop in the back end of an industrial estate that happened to have a 38mm socket and zipped it off no problem.

The main trouble when trying to exercise this job is access as it is tighter than a V6 Avantime in this engine bay. However I persevered, put tippex timing marking on the cam and crank pulleys, pulled the belt off, changed the tensioner as well and put the new chugalug on with the new tensioner putting up a scrap of a fight. Once on I turned it over twice by hand and in that location was no resistance other than compression in the cylinders then put everything back together apart from leaving the creepo sensor disconnected and turned it over on the starter motor and it wizzed around exactly like normal. During this time, Phil had arrived to choice it upward and helped putting the final few parts dorsum together.

With the crank sensor reconnected nosotros both expected it to burn straight up, merely it didn’t. It would plow over, then brainstorm to fire, and so seemingly create a spark at completely the incorrect moment when a piston was still coming upwardly, briefly stopping the starter motor. There is fuel getting to the engine and if a spark plug is pulled out it volition spark if pressed against an earth and the engine tuned over. Past this signal information technology was going to get dark and Phil needed a auto of some description to go habitation equally he had arrived by train. He took the Princess for a run and it was excellent, then it wasn't as when we got back it all of a sudden de-primed its own fuel pump and failed to proceed, and so he took my Mk1 Fiesta instead. I still demand to get the Lancia fixed shortly though, so I tin drive it up to him, swap it with the Fiesta then drive that back.

Our first idea was that the crank sensor had died over again, but replacing it with a new one has had exactly the same symptoms. The crank usually sits in the little bracket shown in the below picture between the timing belt tensioner and the inner wing, and read the bumps on the crank caster which split the edge of the pulley into quarters. There are three single bumps and ane double bump which is the one pictured. The pulley is impossible to put on the wrong style round or incorrectly equally it is keyed to the crank.

This is the main feed to the Magneti Marelli Digiplex 2 which is finer an ignition module and adjusts the timing of the distributor automatically. This also gets readings from other sensors such every bit a temperature sender and the throttle position sensor but will function with these disconnected.

In that location is also this box, the Bosch Jetronic kerjigger which controls the fuel injection end of things once it has had an input from the Digiplex.I don’t think that this is at error as in that location is definitely fuel getting into the engine and the issue seems to be incorrect timing of sparks due to the engine stopping suddenly and jolting when turned over.

I will stress that it just does this under pinch and the engine tin be turned over endlessly without whatever bug if fuel and sparks are not being supplied. Additionally I have tried taking out the spark plugs one by one and trying to start it on three cylinders and the aforementioned symptoms occur no matter which plug is out so it is beyond all cylinders, or at to the lowest degree 2.

I take tried replacing the crank sensor, digiplex and jetronic box and there has been no change. I take set the exactly correct gap between the sensor and the creepo pulley using a feeler gauge and shims and no alter. I have tried it with the belt covers removed and there does not appear to be whatever problems and my timing marks notwithstanding line up perfectly. I have cleaned up the earth points around the ignition components to no avail and have even tried towing it backside a transit to bump start it, but information technology won’t be crash-land started.

I am at present completely stumped, so was hoping one of you may have a vivid idea on this. The but thing I can now think of is that somehow the crank or cam ended up existence turned by 360 degrees while I was changing the belt without me noticing and is now firing when the pistons are at their lowest indicate. But I accept no idea how that would have happened, am 99% certain that it is timed upwardly correctly on the belt and surely information technology would not burn on whatever cylinders ever if this was the case.

The components disturbed by the belt change were as follows if it helps:

Bombardment negative disconnected

Air box and air filter removed

Throttle position sensor disconnected

Bosch Jetronic box removed

Cam pulley embrace removed

Crank pulley plastic baby-sit removed

Water pump pulley removed

Alternator belt removed

Lower timing belt cover removed

Crank sensor removed

Engine mount disconnected and engine lowered on one side

Crank pulley removed

Timing belt tensioner replaced

Timing belt replaced

Components then replaced in reverse order

I volition also try replacing the gyre tomorrow, but I really am clutching at straws at this point. The complete lack of change to any of the symptoms really is baffling me.

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Source: https://autoshite.com/topic/11079-lancia-y10-13-gtie-why-will-it-not-start/page/9/

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